PTE HERBERT JAMES ROE KIA 26 FEB
1917 - PHOTOGRAPHS BY CSGT IVAN ROE, A (NORFOLK AND
SUFFOLK COY, EAST OF ENGLAND REGT)
B&C
95 Dec 00 reported that Gordon
K Reynolds (Suffolk, 4 Royal Norfolk, East
Anglian and 5 Royal Anglian 1945-46 and 1952-73), of
Lowestoft, had rescued from a local antique shop a
photograph (right) of a smart young soldier in a 17"x
22" frame.
Our astute and avid reader of the B&C, Alan Solomon (decd Jan
05), also of Lowestoft, provided the name of the
soldier. 'Looking at this photograph reminded me of one I
had seen in ‘The Carlton Colville Chronicles’,
published a few years ago. It has extracts from the
1901-1940 diary of the Rector of Carlton Colville,
especially detailed for 1914-18. It includes a photograph
of brothers Herbert and Charles Roe.
The likeness between that of Herbert and of the soldier in
Gordon’s photograph is so great to make us feel sure
they are the same man.
The children of the family were 3 brothers and one sister:
Herbert James Roe 13897 2nd Bn Norfolk Regt, killed
26 Feb 1917 aged 23 in Mesopotamia and buried in Amera War
Cemetery, Iraq. Charles William Roe DCM MM, 21372,
Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, killed 22 Oct 1914 aged 23,
buried in Belgium. Charles Reuben Simon Roe served
until 1919 and emigrated to Canada. Violet Roe
served in the WAAC.
Gordon and I have tried to trace relatives of Violet and
pass on the photograph but newspaper advertisements have
brought no success. The next step is for Gordon to offer
it to The Regimental Museum.
The burial details came from The Commonwealth War Graves
Commission Graves website http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf
B&C
99 Dec 02 reported the photograph is now safely in the
Norwich Regimental Museum. In
Mar 04 the Webmaster sent an e-mail to Maj Bob Rogers, OC A (Norfolk
and Suffolk) Coy, East of England Regt, serving in Iraq:
'It's a long shot and much to ask in a big country
given present circumstances, but is there any chance of
getting a print or digital photograph of Herbert's
headstone in Amera War Cemetery, Iraq.'
Bob pulled out all the stops and responded with this
heartening effort:
'Just to let you know where I have got to. After a few
days research I have found the actual town and cemetery.
Its no longer called Amera, the town having been renamed Al
Amara. This is about 60 km North of my location.
I have phoned the Padre of the unit stationed outside the
town and he has kindly informed me that the place is in a
state of disrepair. However there are quite a few name
plaques that have been saved and I am hoping to find ours
there.
I have a team from my location on standby to go - a
minimum of 4 pax and 2 vehicles. We will be met at the
camp and given extra protection to go into the town and
the Padre has also offered to come along.
The only question now is when as the town at the
moment is oob due to IEDs and riots. We at Basra are also
going through interesting times as well. It probably has
not made your news.
However I will get there and my RSM has been tasked with
the manpower to arrange the trip. I will be in touch when
mission accomplished!
I am sure you know that our Herbert was the son of Herbert
J and Emma C Roe of 118 Old Palace Rd, Norwich. He was
born at Gillingham. As a strange coincidence my CQMS at A
Company name is Ivan Roe.' The
above was ready for B&C 102 Jun 04 and for 'The
Castle' but Bob wrote in Apr 04: 'As
Al Amara is now completely OOB due to the fact we have now
started shooting the locals, it is going to be quite some
time before I get there.' In
view of security implications, and, especially
hostage-taking, and the implications if 'the locals'
got wind of a small Brit party heading for Al Amara, the
Norfolk Editor pulled the piece.
Ivan Roe wrote:
'The gentleman who kicked this
off, Gordon Reynolds,
lives just round the corner from me and interestingly he
was one of my instructors when I was in the Army Cadets 28
years ago.
I will try to find out what I can about Herbert Roe but
unfortunately as my Dad and his mother (who was an oracle
of history in and around Bungay) are both dead I might
struggle a bit. If Herbert's father was born in Gillingham
there is a strong possibility that I am related to him as
the Roe family all lived in and around the Waveney valley.
The quest begins.' Ivan and I
met in Dereham at the ceremony in Feb 02, right,
when Lord Lieutenant’s Certificates were presented
for Outstanding Service! However, ever determined, A Coy CQMS Ivan Roe was mobilized for
Iraq in Autumn 2004 and sent the following photographs at
Al Amera! Webmaster comment:
Fantastic! Thank you.
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